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שרון קלדרון ממשפחות החטופים בשיחה עם אל"מ איתמר איתם וד"ר יאיר אנסבכר על השאלה אם נתניהו מכשיל במכוון את המו"מ לשחרור החטופים

יצחק זאגא בשיחה עם שרון קלדרון ממשפחות החטופים סא"ל במיל' איתמר איתם וד"ר יאיר אנסבכר  שרון קלדרון מאמינה שנתניהו מפקיר חיי אדם כדי לשמר על כסאו. איתמר איתם אומר שעשרות אלפי אנשים מסכנים את עצמם יום יום כדי להציל את החטופים מידי החמאס. אני מאמין אומר איתם שבעלי ההחלטות רואים לנגד עיניהם את ביטחון המדינה. אני חושב שכניעה מעצימה את הטרור ותהיה טעות לדורות. אנחנו במלחמה אזורית מול זרועות התמנון של איראן, אומר אנסבכר ומול אג'נדה קיצונית שמטרתה לחסל אותנו ואסור לנו להכנע לה. עלינו לעשות מה שאפשר כדי להחזיר את החטופים אבל בלי לסכן את המדינה.

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How do I measure if the amount of free speech available to Israel, is fair, to justify attacks against them? I cant. It is in G-ds hands. How can I tell if Trump is mostly a positive step, or a threat? I am not sure. G-d has used the gentiles for good, like Cyrus. The modern nation of Israel was given to us by the british and the west. But todays America, is not the same people who were in charge 80 years ago, perhaps. My finger on the scale, might help Israels oppressors. There were more points in favor of the hypothesis, that it might be dangerous. Power lends the capability to influence the parameters of information, A vote for Trump could be a vote for America, or a partial vote for the American empire.

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I also get the impression that there is some truth to the idea that the left would rather oppose democracy in America, rather than let Trump into the white house. So voting for him, might be the right mix for maximum progress.

I don’t think girls realize how easily and casually they often blow away their last chances at love and companionship in life. Men to. But usually men are open to companionship, and the vast majority of men are not able to pick up women, a dynamic that women are oblivious to.

Netanyahu says that in the middle east, without the sword, there is no forever. Think of how derelict in his duties he is, the rest of the Israeli politicians are, the Israeli media, and the Israeli judicial system is, that they don’t even acknowledge that in America and Europe, they basically completely censor the fact that people in the rest of the world think differently, or have deficiencies in their thinking that cause perpetual conflict.

No discussion about the arab muslims being to intolerant of non muslims, to be able to live in peace with them. No observing, that the muslim religion compels muslims to attack, conquer, humiliate, and oppress non muslims as a holly and righteous religious act. You would think that was pertinent information. Explain, at least to the people of Israel, that the muslims do not admit to themselves that they are the aggressors, they lie the majority of the time, in the majority of their media, to themselves, saying that they are victims, the non muslims have mocked them, they have insulted them, they have provoked them, in their censored media, and political discourse.

All we get from the prime minister of Israel, the most powerful politician in the Jewish world, is in the middle east, if you do not have the sword, nothing is forever. A slogan. A zinger. He might as well be selling over priced vacuums. All we hear over and over again, is the appeal for americans to recognize the threat, to think over the threat. As if the Jewish nation doesn’t exist at all.

 I suppose it is possible there is a big gap between the Hebrew and English discourse. But Gaza is unconquered, the PA is still in power, in one city I heard in Judea and Samaria. Hezbola is not neutralized, nor is irans nuclear weapons program. Israel looks more like a death camp for Jews, where the doors are opened every once in a while to let the Jew haters rape, murder and torture some Jews. What other response can there be to letting Jews die, and arresting those who fight against the murderers of the Jews, other than confronting them?

Today buildings are better targets than the traitorous Jews who legislate within them. The humans are replicable, our disapproval and resistance is censored. But with the current surveillance tech, there is still a high likelihood that you would be caught. I doubt the regimes tech even works very well. I am sure their superiors arrange for it not to work very well. But we cant know that, and every action has long prison sentences associated with it would seem.

For us, this is a time of great frustration. Their hatred of right wingers is repeated a thousand fold, while they continue to pretend we do not exist, nor do our opinions. The irony, is that Netanyahus acknowledgment that the middle east is mostly focused on who has the biggest sword, and the bravery to use it, is actually progress. It is ‘cutting edge’ for this world. Good advice would seem to be to dedicate yourself to other enterprises other than media and the progression of human thought, the level of censorship is far to drastic, the improvements are very minor. Still, it seems impossible that things continue as they are, with the left having a narrative that we do not believe in vast numbers. I suppose it will end at some point, may it end soon with the coming of G-ds righteous Messiah.

So dark, so horrid. How many people are monsters who don’t care? Most probably figure islam is the safer horse? I don’t see how that can be managed. Maybe they are only concerned with their individual survival? Or perhaps they are ignorant to the state of things, because they have decided to lie, and are therefore cut off from reality. How much blame to allocate where. I suppose if we must muster up the nerve for a rebellion, in order to graduate to the next level, it will be necessary to blame the government for everything. It probably wont happen till the financial situation falls apart. In G-d I trust.

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נכון שאי אפשר לשפוט משפחות חטופים, אבל אילו סיסמאות ריקות שלא לומר מעוותות. לא שביבי לא אחראי למחדל, אבל אחריותו היא על אי עמידתו מול טיפשי המטכ"ל וכניעתו לו. כאזרח ואב, אני מתנגד לכל עסקה שמעל יחס של 1 ל 1, ואענה על הדמגוגיה "לו זה היה בנך" – הייתי עושה הכל, אבל הייתי מספיק חכם לא לסכן את בני האחר.
האשמים הם בראש ובראשונה הרצי וחליוה, ושאר המטומטמים המתנשאים שהגיעו בחסד ולא מזכות לפנסיה החלומית.

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