האב השכול חגי לובר מתייחס בחריפות לסוגיית גיוס החרדים, במיוחד לאור קריסת הקונספציה של "צבא קטן וחכם", מול עינינו. לובר טוען כי השבר שחוותה תפיסת הביטחון מחייב שיתוף מלא של כלל המגזרים, ובפרט את הציבור החרדי, במאמץ ההגנה על המדינה.
לובר מתייחס גם לעמדת חברי הימין בממשלה, שמוכנים בעת הזו להימנע מעימות עם החרדים בנושא הגיוס. הוא אינו מאשים אותם בצביעות, אלא סבור שהם מונעים מחשש אמיתי: עיסוק במחלוקת הזו עלול להביא לפרוק הקואליציה ולהוביל להפסקת הלחימה בעזה. לטענתו, הם בולעים את "הצפרדע הנוראה" מתוך הבנה שמדובר במלחמה גורלית.
עם זאת, לובר מדגיש כי בסופו של דבר לא ניתן יהיה לדחות את ההכרעה. לדבריו, הממשלה תצטרך לקבוע סדרי עדיפויות ברורים. הוא עצמו מאמין כי גיוס שוויוני הוא לא רק צורך ביטחוני, אלא גם חובה חברתית מהמעלה הראשונה.
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A pleasure to hear in the media.
I still have a hard time shaking the idea that if we added more perspectives, increased the light, the level of discourse, we would persuade more people. I wonder if you don’t do so for reasons of covert power dynamics, or because it is harmful to introduce to much evidence, to a people who are apparently wildly leftist in their inclination, and need to be exposed to right wing ideas in a snails pace. The Jewish and Gentile peoples response, to Jew hatred, and non Muslim hatred, is obviously mismatched to the threat that we face.
I find myself unclear as to how our system of government works.
On top of the massive evidence that the left covers up and censors of Muslim human rights standards, I also think that Jews and white people would be less afraid if they knew their power. If they understood that they could restore democracy after it collapses, due to anger and corruption induced due to hatred of Jews and white gentiles. We can print new money, and we will always be able to do so.
We can establish a new Israeli supreme court, after we dismiss this corrupt, compromised court. In fact it is inevitable, because it is our inclination to do so. There are rules and laws natural to us as a people, and there are those that we have learned over time, but the end result is the same. Our people desire to be happy, to be secure, to live under fair rules and justice, and to not do so is upsetting. Perpetually.
I suppose the flip side to that, is asking ourselves if being unequal, being masculine, desiring to be dominant, the winner, is a perpetual source of discomfort for the Arab Muslims. The greater the inequality, the more foreign the culture and thinking, the more radical and emotional the response.
The other important concepts that come to mind, is that the white gentile period of empire was short, white gentiles did not invent inequality, it existed roughly in the same order that it does today, before white empire. On one hand it is important to disprove the leftist beliefs, but on the other there is the objective of avoiding making the appeal to permanent racial inequality, versus the moral inequality that we can use to establish higher standards of justice and stability. A questionable concept. On one hand non white gentiles seem to exist on much lower moral standards. Even white gentiles are heavily inclined to leftism.
Can we live with them, without grounding our appeal to championing merit, while ignoring persistent inequality? My perspective would incline me to thinking that there is a brick wall somewhere around where we are at. That is on top of the fact that we are in transition, from not believing in the permanence of inequality, and embracing it. Not believing in good and evil, and embracing it. We need G-d to be the most we can be as well.
That still will not protect us from all evil. Not from individuals, not from societies. Regardless if you wildly imagine there will be no murders in the world to come, you could just take the idea a step further and question if there will be no fist fights. The far saner perspective is that all the sins, temptations of man, and the dynamics of evil will persist. Bad men will have hateful jealous thoughts. Poverty will hurt. The difference between good men and bad will be measured by their inclination to blame others, to love pride, to not humble themselves, and all the rest we know well.
I have said this before, but it is massively desirable to repeat, there is a massive difference in violence rates, political stability, toleration levels, standards of living and more, between Muslims and Christians of the same color, all over north Africa, the middle east, and southern Europe. So much to say, so little understanding of what your plan is, how your system judges things. In G-d I trust, but as for you lot, I often ‘wonder’.
Still, nice to hear progress. I hope it is disseminated far and wide. B”H
This in no way counts as my accepting that it is ok to deny the Jews of Israel the right to conquer hamas, and establish a new government in Gaza. It is crazy that Trump in America, cant admit that Islam is intolerant, especially of Jews, but even madder that the Jews of Israel cant acknowledge that Muslims are obviously racist against Jews. You people might as well be pretending that the nazis in the 1930’s were not racist against Jews. The evidence is staggering.
I can only imagine that you have embraced some crazy concept, that tells you that right wing and religious Jews cant tell left wing Jews that Muslims are racist, or perhaps white gentiles cant stand to hear Jews accuse Arab Muslims of racism. You are still radical multiculturalists. Despite the mega death rates due to assimilation, you cannot imagine a world where America is not in control, hiding Jewish power. Your so radical, that I imagine you give it to G-d. Praying for a day where some magical words will stop this divorce from hurting so much. The scariness of an isolated Israel, in a world where nations are going to decide to try to get nuclear weapons.
Divorce cannot be avoided. Your free speech parameters are too small. Reasonable discourse will not carry the day. Gentiles need to be repeated to, over and over again, and given time to express their anger, and that is not to get over their anger over racial inequality, that is to get over their anger at Jewish inequality which they can now see, and their anger over Arab Muslim/non white gentile inequality which they can now see. For the objective of accepting multiculturalism as the best arrangement. Perhaps you can manage to keep censoring the whole truth, about Jews and Arab Muslims. But it would seem you have entered a phase of much higher costs, and much more brutal hatred for doing so. Why sacrifice American Jews for that appeal? Can you remember the motivations for voters in the last American election? Ridiculously inappropriate.
The most simple of horrors I call upon you to stop inflicting on our people, is to make a way for Jews to flee to Israel. Let the boats in. Create communities with reasonable priced homes, for Jews who do not read, or write in Hebrew well yet, and wont for a long time. A Jew does not deserve a death sentence for not being a saint able to not be troubled by this experience of waking up in a fake Jew hating country. While also failing to become substantially wealthy, and smart enough to learn a life times worth of knowledge in a foreign language. You are creating a bottle neck exacerbating a mass murder of Jews. Make A path for escape. In G-d I trust.
Imagine demanding that Israelis learn to become white collar American workers, or face homelessness. It is too high of a bar.