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לדברי נגה ארבל ישראל אינה סובלת רק מאיומים חיצוניים – אלא גם ממשבר זהות ותודעה מסולפת שאסור לה לנצח

נוגה ארבל מעלה אבחנה חריפה באשר לאופן שבו החברה הישראלית מתמודדת עם עימותים צבאיים מאז מלחמת ששת הימים. לדבריה, ישראל אינה סובלת רק מאיומים חיצוניים – אלא גם ממה שהיא מגדירה כתודעה של סירוב לנצח. לא מדובר באוזלת יד טקטית, אלא בפחד עמוק מהכרעה.

לדבריה, מבצעי העבר – כמו זה שהוביל לשחרור ירושלים – הדגימו יכולת מבצעית יוצאת דופן, אך גם הציפו דפוס פסיכולוגי של הימנעות מהמשך התקדמות. במקום לבסס הישג, ישראל חוזרת אחורה, כאילו אינה מאמינה שמותר לה לנצח באמת. גם כאשר ניתנות לה הזדמנויות ברורות, היא נעצרת באמצע – משאירה את העבודה לא גמורה.

התוצאה, לטענתה, היא מציאות בה האויבים מבינים את המסר: ישראל אולי חזקה, אבל אין לה רצון אמתי להכריע. זה מעניק למתנגדים תחושת חסינות, ומעודד את המשך האלימות. לא מדובר כאן בבעיה מדינית או ביטחונית בלבד – אלא במשבר זהות.

ארבל מצביעה גם על התגובות של הציבור ושל המערכת הפוליטית כלפי איומים חוזרים. כל עוד לא משתנה העמדה התודעתית – זו שמפחדת מהשלמת המהלך – ישראל תישאר כלואה במעגל של תגובות זמניות וחוזרות, מבלי לייצר תוצאה אסטרטגית ארוכת טווח.

הקריאה שלה אינה רק למנהיגות – אלא לכלל הציבור. ההכרעה האמתית מתחילה לא בשדה הקרב, אלא באמונה הפנימית שהניצחון אינו רק מותר – אלא הכרחי.

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I think the reality is the west is still trying to figure out how to deal with the parallel societies, and tremendous hatred of the west, that is very common in Islam. Its not one bad apple, among Muslim voters, they will vote for jihadis every time. The left will in total paralysis, vote for them to, mumbling something about being supportive. In G-d I trust.
How does one expose a world that is completely different than the one the left imagines?
How long was it, between Moses’s revelation, and the first writing of that revelation? What’s the oldest copy of the Torah that we have?
A rich man has to marry some woman. How can he know, if A woman never slips up, if she never stops lying? Pretending she doesn’t have a selfish bone in her body, pretending she has no self-interests at all.
How many Mitzvas did the white gentiles and their nations get over the past few thousand years?
Obviously if Israeli actions only set back the Iranian nuclear program by six months that would be undesirable to piss them off. But I am sure they did what they did because they were sure it made a rational contribution to managing middle eastern and global terrorism and nuclear proliferation to terrorist nations.
The reason why so many Israeli soldiers have perished, is because those who fought against the Arab Muslims on October 7th, did so without air support, without tanks, or artillery. They had no armored vehicles, no mortars, no drones, just gun vs gun.
People might think that getting over Jew hatred, mastering it, and managing it, might be an insurmountable hurdle to attain, but it is really amazing how ideas can cause us to transform, to forget old hatred, to forget entrenched positions. Most Jew haters have never even asked themselves if their hatred of Jews is rooted in emotion, in their own simplistic defense of their people and identity. Are they over invested in the idea that races are in conflict and competition? Isnt it more rational that a more consentual arrangement is necessary? How on earth did the Jews convince 2,000 years worth of European kings to do business with them? Isn’t it proof, that fear has blinded many men, when most have never even considered that Jewish inequality might be a good thing?
What is this new narrative about Israel being the undisputed hegimon of the middle east? An empire? Jews seem far to disliked to have the role of management in the Muslim world. I perceive the Jews as having more of a symbolic destiny in religious writings. It makes sense in a secular sense as well. A people who is smarter and more talented than others, is going to get the highest ratings. Its simply how things work. It doesn’t matter that a nation of people has smart and foolish people among them, moral and immoral.
Just picture white people in south American soap operas. If they don’t like white people so much, why do they watch them so much? The problem comes in when reality step in. They want to enjoy watching the white people, and listening to their ideas, but when they are in management, they fall back to their tribalism. Like they want to be lied to, to like them from afar, but not to admit that they are not them, and they are not equal. They like white people as long as white people are telling them how wonderful their people are, how equal they are, how their identity is even more important than the white peoples identity, or the Jews.
When these people run into a poor Jew, they see them as an opportunity to express their displeasure with the entire Jewish people. Which is considerable. Sad to imagine the hell that Jewish girls, who have decided that there are no differences between Jews and gentiles, there are no reasons for a people to be naturally bitter over inequality. There are no additional hardships, of living with gentiles in a time before it is established that the most important part of race relations is not competition, but working together.
 Imagine the horrible work of women, to go out on date after date, and submit themselves sexually, to man after man, in the hopes of begging one you like to marry you. In a nation where you have been fed media that said to you that inequality is a result of social constructs, not unchangeable radical emotion, that will compel the Jewish people to dwell alone.
Women are not able to submit to an unconfident man. It has very little to do with spirituality or morality. It is clearly genetic. But Jewish men have tremendous reason to be unconfident. Their women are foolish, and in denial of a world designed to be perpetually at war with itself. G-d has made it so, to force us to divide into nations of our own kind. Maybe. Maybe mostly? Certainly, for the Jews it is so. The scale of the hatred against them, is inherently unmanageable for the majority of Jews who decide they are going to stay Jewish and marry Jewish. Then nations like America will have a choice, put up with a small minority of Jews who are hated and attacked by gentiles who think that their blood inclines them to be traitors. People who imagine dark things, who are unconstrained by logic, and will forever be so. And the Jews, the loudest voices and minds, screaming about the injustice of their treatment, convincing the entire nation that they are racist, sucking up the attention and narrative, and contributing little to the economy and discourse of a nation. America will hand over the minority of stiff necked Jews to Israel, and tell them to keep them.
The Jew haters in the American right wing, are a far more important target than Iran. Just think about the discourse you could force by arguing with them. I think that the right wing nationalists and racial partisans, may be the cherry on top that breaks America. The left is numerous, but they are discredited, and they are not respected, big hurdles to overcome. But right wingers who imagine they are fighting for what is good, who imagine they are fighting for their people and nation, they can make the champions of G-d and morality feel like they are weak and an extreme minority.
 The Jew hating right can capture a large percentage of the right, and it is completely provable that they are not putting their peoples interests, or their nations first. They are putting their own selfish hatred and jealousy first, but they don’t know it. Which means many can be converted, when they realize that Jews increase the wealth, knowledge, morality, and freedom of a nation. That clinging to universal aspirations, and the celebration of the exceptional, are things that should be exaggerated for the transitionary period, even if they are not accurate, pleasant or preferable for normal times. A time when society and people are transitioning from one state of mind, to another.
A very valuable conversation. Through fighting the anti Jewish right, inequality can be exposed and discussed, race relation rules can be argued, and blind people can be induced to forget everything they used to believe. In G-d I trust.
Can Tucker, Bannon, Owens, Jones and others organize a national march against war? Can we get all the anti semites into the streets? Should it be right and left, or just right?

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29 ימים לפני

Iran is threatening America, and to close the straight of Hormuz, and the gulf nations. But I don’t think there threats have much meaning. How could it be that they still have a considerable missile capability, but aren’t using it against the Israelis? What nation would allow their attacking enemy, complete and total air domination, to do what they pleased, and not to retaliate enough to force cease fire negotiations? The entire country of Iran, offered on a platter, with only perhaps a few deeply buried nuclear development sites out of reach? They will allow their military to be targeted, their police stations and prisons to be destroyed?
Perhaps they are relying on their knowledge of shadow government rules, to control the target escalation against them. I wonder if normal rules of war wouldn’t entice the Saudis to commit a false flag against themselves. The ability to target anything they want in Iran, to topple the regime to them must be outrageous temptation. How hard would it be to create an incident in the straight of Hormuz? Would anyone care if the Saudis claimed a suspicious false flag? They would have political cover from much of the world. Hard to say the Israelis are justified in defending their security, but the Saudis aren’t. A defenseless Iran. The Saudis could bomb anything in the country. In G-d I trust.

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